i had know idea this was going on…

so today i bought the Hartz flea dip for cats and the Hartz onespot drops for my cat also, gave him his dip….was fine after he dried i put the drops on him.
i left the house hours later and was talking about it because she has a puppy with fleas and shes going to bomb her place and she gave her puppy advantix or something like that, and i mentioned that i used Hartz, i had no idea about the victims and i just grabbed it while i was at wal-mart, and she told me she thought it had been recalled and someone she knew that works for pits r us had mentioned to her not to use that brand, but my cat has had no side effects other than the fleas are off of him, im hoping it keeps them away but no side effects. ive seen positive reviews on the product so im assuming its not all pets that this happens to and they seem to be in minutes, and if this is the case how are they able to still sell this product to people like me who had no idea until it was already done?

6 thoughts on “i had know idea this was going on…”

  1. You’re right, it doesn’t always happen. What we’d really like is for someone – Hartz, or maybe a more neutral organization – to test the flea products and their kitten milk replacer so we can find out how many animals are affected and maybe why.

    But Hartz does not acknowledge that there is anything wrong with their products. People have tried to get Hartz to talk to us about it, but they haven’t shared anything with us. We can’t make them do it!

    You said, “if this is the case how are they able to still sell this product”? Well, this is one side effect of free market capitalism. They can do whatever they want to do – there is no regulatory body with legal clout who can make Hartz comply with any requirements. Only in a vague way can we find protection as with any other product – we could sue based on the fact or assumption that Hartz products harmed our animals (and we’d have to prove it forensically) and that we’d like to be reimbursed for the cost of the animal that died or maybe the vet bill. That’s it! A pet is a possession under the law, and you could sue for the cost of the animal. But there is no regulatory body that has standards for pet products.

    So, we’re stuck with signing and delivering petitions to Hartz, which are useless, and with getting attention to the problem in ways that do not libel. And after that, our hands are pretty much tied.

    Any ideas or suggestions would be welcome!
    Alice J

  2. you cant flea dip an animal then put flea medicine on. you have t wait til the shampoo wears off so that was your owner negligence. its not the products fault it yours.

  3. It’s obviously NO idea…maybe a person able to choose the correct spelling of an extremely simple word would be more likely to have an idea.

  4. ” so im assuming its not all pets that this happens to and they seem to be in minutes” …..Wrong, wrong, wrong! It is every single animal that it is used on. Just some react worse than others. Even if you can’t see an outward reaction this stuff is still silently poisoning the animals kidneys and other organs (kidney failure is not visibly detectable until the animal has lost about 80% of it’s function and by then it’s too late to do much). My cat didn’t die or have to be hospitalized but she started to over groom and pull out all of her fur until she was almost completely bald for at least a month after using the Hartz stuff. Just don’t do it ! For about the same amount of money you can go to a vet and ask for Sentinal or Revolution that will not harm your animal and will be given in vet administered doses and works even better than the Hartz stuff does. ALSO, even if your animal doesn’t react outwardly the first time it has been known to go horribly wrong after a second or third use. It’s not worth it!

  5. marie
    January 29th, 2013 @12:58 pm
    you cant flea dip an animal then put flea medicine on. you have t wait til the shampoo wears off so that was your owner negligence. its not the products fault it yours.

    REPLY : shut your face ive had animals for years and done this to get the job done tyvm and never had an issue even vets that i have spoken to in cases where the fleas are horrible first off i came to this site to say hey i know idea i wont try this product again not to be badgered by people who have nothing better to do but to sit around and try to say im a bad pet owner because i bought something cheap in a pickle to try to prevent fleas from getting horribly out of control and having no idea that these products done this to other animals considering i have used them in the past years and years ago but have used them before.

    Face in Palm
    February 21st, 2013 @10:46 pm
    It’s obviously NO idea…maybe a person able to choose the correct spelling of an extremely simple word would be more likely to have an idea.

    REPLY maybe someone should get a life instead of sitting around of websites clocking every person who miss spells a word.

    Dana
    April 16th, 2013 @11:56 am
    ” so im assuming its not all pets that this happens to and they seem to be in minutes” …..Wrong, wrong, wrong! It is every single animal that it is used on. Just some react worse than others. Even if you can’t see an outward reaction this stuff is still silently poisoning the animals kidneys and other organs (kidney failure is not visibly detectable until the animal has lost about 80% of it’s function and by then it’s too late to do much). My cat didn’t die or have to be hospitalized but she started to over groom and pull out all of her fur until she was almost completely bald for at least a month after using the Hartz stuff. Just don’t do it ! For about the same amount of money you can go to a vet and ask for Sentinal or Revolution that will not harm your animal and will be given in vet administered doses and works even better than the Hartz stuff does. ALSO, even if your animal doesn’t react outwardly the first time it has been known to go horribly wrong after a second or third use. It’s not worth it!

    REPLY please read above that i got advantix and have been using this for over 3 months now and still have fleas after 3 months of use there still coming back im at my wits end with the fleas but please note that i said above i would not use this product again

    stop commenting on my 3-4 month old post like i did not receive the message that this product was wrong to use back up and READ everything ty

  6. The best thing is not to have any carpet or drapes in your home where fleas can live. I know this is not practical for everyone, but it is still the best way to go if you can. Unfortunately, fleas have become resistant to many of the really good products like Frontline and Advantage/Advantix. Program was the first one and it was not very effective by the time Frontline and Advantage came out. Now, Program is coming back and is more effective than Frontline or Advantage. Go figure. Program is quite expensive, but it apparently does work, for now. The flea collars are horrible and quite often burn, as you have all seen. Flea shampoos and dips that you use at home, same story. The other thing is to use the old-fashioned, and very safe method of combing the fleas every day, more than once a day during the height of flea season in the summer. It is so hard to get rid of them once they get a foothold in your home and your carpet. Insecticides are dangerous, no question about it. Advantage and Frontline and Program seem to be safer than the cheaper brands and they are more effective, keeping in mind what I mentioned above about the fleas building up a resistance to the products. If you comb, use a glass filled with water and a bit of soap on top. The soap bubbles will kill the fleas, so just flick them from the comb into the glass/cup. Soap is a very good insecticide, no matter what anyone says…the bubbles especially disrupt the flea’s respiratory system and then they die. Soap has been used as an effective insecticide for hundreds of years. But having carpets and drapes that fleas flourish in is a real problem.

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