Comments on: This stuff need to be pulled off the market!! http://www.hartzvictims.org/2009/07/03/this-stuff-need-to-be-pulled-off-the-market/ One More Victim is One Too Many Sat, 31 Jul 2010 06:09:48 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.0.1 By: Christine http://www.hartzvictims.org/2009/07/03/this-stuff-need-to-be-pulled-off-the-market/comment-page-1/#comment-20109 Christine Fri, 27 Nov 2009 01:15:03 +0000 http://www.hartzvictims.org/?p=2907#comment-20109 I usually use a topical from the vet to treat my mini schnauzer for flea and tick control. This time around I had run out and with thanksgiving two days away, picked up sergeants gold after seeing a couple of fleas on him and panicked a little. I applied it, and cleaned the house accordingly (bedding etc.) The next morning my dog was lethargic and didn't want to walk around or move too much. When he did he would snap back to bite near his tail and also where I applied it. He kept shaking his head as if he were wet. I gave him a bath and he seemed a little better but is still not out of the woods. Folks, I asked the vet for a natural alternative for flea and tick control. He did not know of one and said to stick with what I have. My 6 yr old daughter has gotten lyme disease twice and with that in mind, I had used topicals in the past because it worked. I needed it to work. I should, however, have researched more indept to find a natural effective way. Does anyone know of any?? Because I do not want to use ANY chemicals on my dog AGAIN. It's heartbreaking. I will call Sergeants tommorow as it is Thanksgiving and very late. I am giving him another bath. I can't believe the stories I am reading here. I usually use a topical from the vet to treat my mini schnauzer for flea and tick control. This time around I had run out and with thanksgiving two days away, picked up sergeants gold after seeing a couple of fleas on him and panicked a little. I applied it, and cleaned the house accordingly (bedding etc.) The next morning my dog was lethargic and didn’t want to walk around or move too much. When he did he would snap back to bite near his tail and also where I applied it. He kept shaking his head as if he were wet. I gave him a bath and he seemed a little better but is still not out of the woods. Folks, I asked the vet for a natural alternative for flea and tick control. He did not know of one and said to stick with what I have. My 6 yr old daughter has gotten lyme disease twice and with that in mind, I had used topicals in the past because it worked. I needed it to work. I should, however, have researched more indept to find a natural effective way. Does anyone know of any?? Because I do not want to use ANY chemicals on my dog AGAIN. It’s heartbreaking. I will call Sergeants tommorow as it is Thanksgiving and very late. I am giving him another bath. I can’t believe the stories I am reading here.

]]> By: john http://www.hartzvictims.org/2009/07/03/this-stuff-need-to-be-pulled-off-the-market/comment-page-1/#comment-19203 john Thu, 12 Nov 2009 02:29:51 +0000 http://www.hartzvictims.org/?p=2907#comment-19203 You're dog had organophosphate poinsoning. Same type stuff used in weapons of mass destruction. Most fire and police departments have recieved MARK I anedote kits for this stuff but it's not for use to public. Symptoms include uncontrolled: salivation, tears, running nose, urination, defication, rapid breating, slowed pulse. I'm a paramedic trained to look for these signs and stay as far away from the sourse. My german shepherd was the 1st patient in 11 years I've encountered with organophosphate poinsoning luckily. You’re dog had organophosphate poinsoning. Same type stuff used in weapons of mass destruction. Most fire and police departments have recieved MARK I anedote kits for this stuff but it’s not for use to public. Symptoms include uncontrolled: salivation, tears, running nose, urination, defication, rapid breating, slowed pulse. I’m a paramedic trained to look for these signs and stay as far away from the sourse. My german shepherd was the 1st patient in 11 years I’ve encountered with organophosphate poinsoning luckily.

]]> By: Jim http://www.hartzvictims.org/2009/07/03/this-stuff-need-to-be-pulled-off-the-market/comment-page-1/#comment-19168 Jim Wed, 11 Nov 2009 18:04:08 +0000 http://www.hartzvictims.org/?p=2907#comment-19168 We had a horrific experience with a Hartz and a Sargents spot flea product that was very disturbing and could have killed three of our poodles except that we reacted fast enough to bathe them and wash away some of the "poison" All poodles reacted with scratching to the point of removing their hair and skin, bleeding and acting as if some demon was chasing them. Their cries of pain and nervous acting was heartbreaking. It was like watching our pets die in front of our eyes when all we wanted to do was just to help them. We reported this to the emergency help line at Sargents and all they did was sugest we wash the pets several times. THESE PRODUCTS SHOULD BE OUTLAWED IMMEDIATELY! We had a horrific experience with a Hartz and a Sargents spot flea product that was very disturbing and could have killed three of our poodles except that we reacted fast enough to bathe them and wash away some of the “poison” All poodles reacted with scratching to the point of removing their hair and skin, bleeding and acting as if some demon was chasing them. Their cries of pain and nervous acting was heartbreaking. It was like watching our pets die in front of our eyes when all we wanted to do was just to help them.
We reported this to the emergency help line at Sargents and all they did was sugest we wash the pets several times.
THESE PRODUCTS SHOULD BE OUTLAWED IMMEDIATELY!

]]> By: AveHurley http://www.hartzvictims.org/2009/07/03/this-stuff-need-to-be-pulled-off-the-market/comment-page-1/#comment-16219 AveHurley Sat, 19 Sep 2009 01:48:23 +0000 http://www.hartzvictims.org/?p=2907#comment-16219 I agree that what they are selling should be considered criminal and they need to be held accountable.My cat did the same thing, running into walls, foaming at the mouth, screaming, seizing, urinating herself, panting and collapsing. My son thought she had rabies!! I knew she didnt as she never has been out of the house and has been vaccinated against rabies. I only used a single dose tube [first and last time to ever do that!] and put only 2 drops on her and a couple of drops on my sons 2 cats. 3 hours later the nighmare began for us, but had already begun for the cat before she seized... We caught her and caged her, washed off the drops and called a vet, bringing her in as an emergency, because we knew otherwise she would die. We weren't even sure she'd make it to the vets. My sons cats has less reactions, one vomited for about a week or more and lost fur on her hind quarters [poison travels through skin into the sebaceous glands and causes fur to fall out anywhere.] I had washed off the necks of the other 2 cats before we went to the vet to save my cat. Now a few months later, she is playful again, grew back her fur but is still sickly looking as she is now about 5 lbs at 2 years of age~! The larger grey cat that vomited is about 3 times her size and now having kittens any day.The white cat is long haired so her bald spots werent noticable & she is doing well. I guess here giving 3 cats the same meds and seeing the 3 different reactions may be why manufacturers get away with it, since our white cat didnt show any outward signs,but the little grey one did, and the larger grey cat had a less severe reaction. The stuff is poison and needs to be banned~!! I agree that what they are selling should be considered criminal and they need to be held accountable.My cat did the same thing, running into walls, foaming at the mouth, screaming, seizing, urinating herself, panting and collapsing. My son thought she had rabies!! I knew she didnt as she never has been out of the house and has been vaccinated against rabies. I only used a single dose tube [first and last time to ever do that!] and put only 2 drops on her and a couple of drops on my sons 2 cats.
3 hours later the nighmare began for us, but had already begun for the cat before she seized… We caught her and caged her, washed off the drops and called a vet, bringing her in as an emergency, because we knew otherwise she would die. We weren’t even sure she’d make it to the vets. My sons cats has less reactions, one vomited for about a week or more and lost fur on her hind quarters [poison travels through skin into the sebaceous glands and causes fur to fall out anywhere.] I had washed off the necks of the other 2 cats before we went to the vet to save my cat.
Now a few months later, she is playful again, grew back her fur but is still sickly looking as she is now about 5 lbs at 2 years of age~! The larger grey cat that vomited is about 3 times her size and now having kittens any day.The white cat is long haired so her bald spots werent noticable & she is doing well.
I guess here giving 3 cats the same meds and seeing the 3 different reactions may be why manufacturers get away with it, since our white cat didnt show any outward signs,but the little grey one did, and the larger grey cat had a less severe reaction.
The stuff is poison and needs to be banned~!!

]]> By: glenn http://www.hartzvictims.org/2009/07/03/this-stuff-need-to-be-pulled-off-the-market/comment-page-1/#comment-15227 glenn Sun, 06 Sep 2009 13:30:26 +0000 http://www.hartzvictims.org/?p=2907#comment-15227 September 6, 2009 Yesterday I bought Sergeants Silver Flea and Tick Medicine, the three pack as my 3 dogs are all about the same weight. My three dogs, 2 small poodles ages 1 1/2 years old and 9 years old and a 16 year old rat terrier are all sick. The poodles are the worse, hyperactivity, scratching, drinking excessive amounts of water, eating grass and throwing up. I have been up most of the night with them. Sergeants should be forced to remove these products from the store shelves. I will be calling the NPIC in a few minutes to report the severity of the product. The NPIC is the National Pesticide Information Center. I am also reporting the problem to Sergeants. In my opinion the people at Sergeants are criminals for selling such a product. September 6, 2009
Yesterday I bought Sergeants Silver Flea and Tick Medicine, the three pack as my 3 dogs are all about the same weight. My three dogs, 2 small poodles ages 1 1/2 years old and 9 years old and a 16 year old rat terrier are all sick. The poodles are the worse, hyperactivity, scratching, drinking excessive amounts of water, eating grass and throwing up. I have been up most of the night with them. Sergeants should be forced to remove these products from the store shelves. I will be calling the NPIC in a few minutes to report the severity of the product. The NPIC is the National Pesticide Information Center. I am also reporting the problem to Sergeants. In my opinion the people at Sergeants are criminals for selling such a product.

]]> By: Amy http://www.hartzvictims.org/2009/07/03/this-stuff-need-to-be-pulled-off-the-market/comment-page-1/#comment-14442 Amy Thu, 27 Aug 2009 02:59:14 +0000 http://www.hartzvictims.org/?p=2907#comment-14442 Just lost my boxer Maddy after 10 years of her loyal companionship and perfect health. Hartz caused severe seizures,peeing and pooping in the house,foaming at the mouth,running into walls,paranoia,shaking,curled tongue,blood shot eyes...she finally died about 3 hours ago after 5 days of seizures..god rest her soul.. Just lost my boxer Maddy after 10 years of her loyal companionship and perfect health. Hartz caused severe seizures,peeing and pooping in the house,foaming at the mouth,running into walls,paranoia,shaking,curled tongue,blood shot eyes…she finally died about 3 hours ago after 5 days of seizures..god rest her soul..

]]> By: John Korolow http://www.hartzvictims.org/2009/07/03/this-stuff-need-to-be-pulled-off-the-market/comment-page-1/#comment-13449 John Korolow Sun, 09 Aug 2009 15:46:27 +0000 http://www.hartzvictims.org/?p=2907#comment-13449 ALL OF THESE PRODUCTS ARE INSECTICIDES!!!!!!!! HOW CAN ANYONE EVEN CONSIDER PUTTING AN INSECTICIDE ON YOUR DOG OR CAT???????? I HAVE NEVER AND WILL NEVER USE ANY SUCH THING ON MY DOGS. THERE ARE MANY NATURAL ALTERNATIVES TO PREVENT FLEAS. A RESPONSIBLE PET OWNER SHOULD RESEARCH ALL NATURAL WAYS OF HELPING OUR PETS. MANY PETS TODAY ARE STILL OVERVACCINATED, OVER MEDICATED AND FED GARBAGE COMMERCIAL PET FOOD BECAUSE OWNERS ARE TOO LAZY TO MAKE THEM NUTRITIOUS HOME COOKED MEALS. THEIR LIVES ARE IN OUR HANDS - WE OWE IT TO THEM TO GIVE THEM THE BEST FOR ALL THE LOVE AND COMPANIONSHIP THEY GIVE TO US. ALL OF THESE PRODUCTS ARE INSECTICIDES!!!!!!!! HOW CAN ANYONE EVEN CONSIDER PUTTING AN INSECTICIDE ON YOUR DOG OR CAT????????
I HAVE NEVER AND WILL NEVER USE ANY SUCH THING ON MY DOGS. THERE ARE MANY NATURAL ALTERNATIVES TO PREVENT FLEAS. A RESPONSIBLE PET OWNER SHOULD RESEARCH ALL NATURAL WAYS OF HELPING OUR PETS. MANY PETS TODAY ARE STILL OVERVACCINATED, OVER MEDICATED AND FED GARBAGE COMMERCIAL PET FOOD BECAUSE OWNERS ARE TOO LAZY TO MAKE THEM NUTRITIOUS HOME COOKED MEALS. THEIR LIVES ARE IN OUR HANDS – WE OWE IT TO THEM TO GIVE THEM THE BEST FOR ALL THE LOVE AND COMPANIONSHIP THEY GIVE TO US.

]]> By: Sudhani http://www.hartzvictims.org/2009/07/03/this-stuff-need-to-be-pulled-off-the-market/comment-page-1/#comment-13425 Sudhani Sun, 09 Aug 2009 04:47:16 +0000 http://www.hartzvictims.org/?p=2907#comment-13425 Can we do something to get Hartz out of the market? May be a protest / movement against it... -Sudhani Can we do something to get Hartz out of the market? May be a protest / movement against it…

-Sudhani

]]> By: Chuck http://www.hartzvictims.org/2009/07/03/this-stuff-need-to-be-pulled-off-the-market/comment-page-1/#comment-13409 Chuck Sat, 08 Aug 2009 22:54:54 +0000 http://www.hartzvictims.org/?p=2907#comment-13409 After going through this post the statement was made that they would never purchase this product again but go to the vet for the "Good Stuff". What the heck is wrong with people you just had a life and death episode with a topical and you want to now go and get the "Good Stuff"! Don't need an anvil to fall on your head. Didn't you learn anything? There is no "Good Stuff" chemical pesticides are "POISONS"! Don't continue toxing your cats or dogs. Put the chemical pesticides away and treat your home with a mechanical flea killer like "disodium octoborate tetrahydrate" a water soluable boron which is an IGR and last forever the only thing that will take it out of your carpets is hot water extraction. It may sound chemically ugly but it is the least toxic remedie that you can use about as toxic as table salt and you do not put it on the pet but in the pets environment. You turn your rugs from a perfect breeding ground for fleas into a flea killer. Soap will kil fleas just not quickly. A hypo-allergenic bath will kill all the fleas on your cat and you rinse all the residue off then put them back into a flea free environment. Twenty-one days later bath the cat again to break the flea life cycle. In your home there are many chemicals that you expose your animals to. Who knows what they were already exposed to due to your ignorance then you gave them the extra dose of poison because you thought more was better. It is not all the manufacturers fault as you have some responsibility to know what you are doing when it come to poisons, drugs, etc. Buyer beware and learn what you are doing before you do it. Do not trust a company to care as much for your pet as you do or yoursef for that matter. Chuck After going through this post the statement was made that they would never purchase this product again but go to the vet for the “Good Stuff”. What the heck is wrong with people you just had a life and death episode with a topical and you want to now go and get the “Good Stuff”! Don’t need an anvil to fall on your head. Didn’t you learn anything?

There is no “Good Stuff” chemical pesticides are “POISONS”! Don’t continue toxing your cats or dogs. Put the chemical pesticides away and treat your home with a mechanical flea killer like “disodium octoborate tetrahydrate” a water soluable boron which is an IGR and last forever the only thing that will take it out of your carpets is hot water extraction. It may sound chemically ugly but it is the least toxic remedie that you can use about as toxic as table salt and you do not put it on the pet but in the pets environment.

You turn your rugs from a perfect breeding ground for fleas into a flea killer. Soap will kil fleas just not quickly. A hypo-allergenic bath will kill all the fleas on your cat and you rinse all the residue off then put them back into a flea free environment. Twenty-one days later bath the cat again to break the flea life cycle.

In your home there are many chemicals that you expose your animals to. Who knows what they were already exposed to due to your ignorance then you gave them the extra dose of poison because you thought more was better. It is not all the manufacturers fault as you have some responsibility to know what you are doing when it come to poisons, drugs, etc.

Buyer beware and learn what you are doing before you do it. Do not trust a company to care as much for your pet as you do or yoursef for that matter.

Chuck

]]> By: sadie http://www.hartzvictims.org/2009/07/03/this-stuff-need-to-be-pulled-off-the-market/comment-page-1/#comment-12795 sadie Tue, 21 Jul 2009 09:50:33 +0000 http://www.hartzvictims.org/?p=2907#comment-12795 I had the same response from my dog to the seargents gold flea and tick treatment,hours after I applied this to my chiuahua she started vomitting,scratching like crazy and twitching,we bathed her twice as told,she is eating and not running around like crazy but she stil has a bit of a twitch and her back leg seems to buckle under her at times,I feel absolutely horrible for not researching this product first and I am appalled that this product is still out there I have reported it to the npic and I hope that they will take this product of the market before any more animals get hurt or killed! I had the same response from my dog to the seargents gold flea and tick treatment,hours after I applied this to my chiuahua she started vomitting,scratching like crazy and twitching,we bathed her twice as told,she is eating and not running around like crazy but she stil has a bit of a twitch and her back leg seems to buckle under her at times,I feel absolutely horrible for not researching this product first and I am appalled that this product is still out there I have reported it to the npic and I hope that they will take this product of the market before any more animals get hurt or killed!

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